Liver flush – Does it work or help at all?

Has anyone tried a liver flush? At curezone they indicated that a liver flush may help cure acne 😮 but I would think that drinking 1/2 a cup of olive oil would break me out rather nasty instead of help clear acne.

Has anyone had any experience with any detox or liver cleanse programs?

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26 thoughts on “Liver flush – Does it work or help at all?

  1. This might help you undestand why liver flushes help:

    http://www.naturopathicdoc.com/template.cfm?page=7

    BTW, that one-time flush isn’t going to cure acne, you have to do a whole regimen to cleanse it and probably take milk thistle.

    I don’t even have oily skin when I take artichoke extract or other liver cleansing herbs, though I might have a few breakouts around that time of the month.

    If you’ve been on antibiotics, you should read my thread called: antiobiotics are hard on the liver.

  2. If you’ve been on antibiotics, you should read my thread called: antiobiotics are hard on the liver.

    Christian, you should prob read this thread anyway if you havent already – Denise and Solomio have put together a lot of info that could benefit everyone and since your question is about the liver anyway id definitely check it out…great stuff!!

  3. I have done one. And like Denise said, in order to see the full benefits you have to do several. Would I do it again? Probably not, unless there was some more evidence CLEARLY linking that very cleanse to acne. I assume if you’ve gone to curezone, you are talking about the epsom salt/olive oil/grapefruit one? I can stil remember the taste of both-and then my stomach gets queezy! The epsom salt tastes very, very bitter, to help stimulate the bile. And the olive oil/grapefruit is bearable, although when I first did it, I screwed that part up and ended up drinking the olive oil and nearly emptied anything in my stomach. Just some info for you!

  4. I agree, Wally. I think that doing a diet change that includes a lot of raw foods and supplements is a good way to go. Those cocktail mixtures are pretty nasty…..

    When you get leaky gut syndrome, which many of us have from taking antibiotics, then it permanently weakens the liver. I’m thinking about doing a huge detox and consuming lots of aloe vera and l-glutamine to deal with it (again), though I’ve done it before. This time, though, I will probably juice a lot of beets and carrots to enhance the effects.

    There’s more than one way to skin a cat (and do a liver flush :wink )

  5. Thanx for your post. Yes at Curezone and also at

    http://healthychristianliving.com/liver_cleanse.htm

    they explained with pictures and diagrams of the type of stones that get clogged in the liver and bile ducts. The theory behind it seems to make sense that a healthy digestion with increased bile flow will help to better metabolize fats which probably explains why fatty foods in particular tend to break me out.

    But empirical experience from the replies posted seem to indicate otherwise There is also this interesting post below

    http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/000166.html

    which seems to suggest that the stones are no more than droplets of bile coated olive oil droplets.

  6. [quote]If you’ve been on antibiotics, you should read my thread called: antiobiotics are hard on the liver.

    Christian, you should prob read this thread anyway if you havent already – Denise and Solomio have put together a lot of info that could benefit everyone and since your question is about the liver anyway id definitely check it out…great stuff!![/quote]
    Thanx Tatum. I’ve searched the message archives for anything to do with liver and have studied the message. I also noticed that not a lot of people have had much success with the liver flush.

    But I find it very surprising that so much stones as indicated in this link below

    http://healthychristianliving.com/liver_cleanse.htm

    could be stuck in the liver and bile ducts and would think that getting rid of them would help improve overall health if not acne.

  7. I have done one. And like Denise said, in order to see the full benefits you have to do several. Would I do it again? Probably not, unless there was some more evidence CLEARLY linking that very cleanse to acne. I assume if you’ve gone to curezone, you are talking about the epsom salt/olive oil/grapefruit one? I can stil remember the taste of both-and then my stomach gets queezy! The epsom salt tastes very, very bitter, to help stimulate the bile. And the olive oil/grapefruit is bearable, although when I first did it, I screwed that part up and ended up drinking the olive oil and nearly emptied anything in my stomach. Just some info for you!

    Thanx Wally for your input. Yes the epson salt / olive oil / grapefruit was what I was reading about. So you mean you felt absolutely no benefit at all after the first flush? Did you find any stones at all. They say you should flush 2000 stones before your liver is cleansed. That’s a lot of stones 😮

    From what you described it seems like quite an ordeal to do this cleanse and you have to do it many times to get any benefit? :crazyeyes

    One thing I was wondering about was that I think I eat quite a lot, very healthy and have included a lot of protein – real protein from lean meats like fish, chicken breasts, some Omega 3 eggs, typically 550g of lean protein a day which far exceeds the minimum of 70g for my weight class – and lots of veggies lightly steamed. And yet I have not been able to gain much weight and have lost weight. I am thinking that I am not producing enough bile to metabolize the protein and fats and hence am not absorbing much of the nutrients b/c of poor digestion. In fact poorly metabolized fats may be what’s being excreted thru the pores as sebum.

    I have taken milk thistle and dandelion roots and burdock roots but don’t feel there is any benefit, at least for the 3 months I’ve tried it. These are supposed to be liver cleansers although I don’t by what mechanism it improves the efficacy of the liver. I’ve also taken probiotics packaged thru a patented LivBac process. And don’t really feel there is any difference.

  8. Christine, like you I have taken my share of blood cleansing herbs. I’ll tell you very frankly that milk thistle doesn’t seem to work for me, either. What seems to work well for me is artichoke extract. It is much better than milk thistle at bile production. Bile production is important because it breaks down the toxins, cholesterol, fats, etc…for exit from the body through the colon. I take a Liver Detox forumula from Renew Life (which has no milk thistle, but other herbs) AND artichoke extract. Sometimes if my skin is acting up, I’ll add in a blood cleansing liquid extract for a few days. I understand your frustration. What happened to me long ago was that blood cleansing herbs worked well by themselves. As the years have gone on, though, I’ve had to add other things.

    If a liver detox doesn’t do the trick, try Artichoke extract with the Renew Life liver detox formula. You would have to get them both at a healthfood store. Don’t get cheap drugstore stuff, they aren’t effective.

  9. The way I help my liver is by digestive enzymes. B5, a popular acne treatment, works by breaking down fats. I think for a lot of people, digestion is a key to their acne, but there are so many possibilities. As for the liver cleanse, I did what it said to and to be honest, I didn’t pass hardly any stones. But some people have said you have to do it a lot before you see any results. Are you seriously thinking about doing it?

  10. Thanx Denise for sharing your experience. Yes I’ve tried various liver cleansers and have not found it effective at all. I also take about 5g of B5s daily along with numerous other supplements (zinc, chromium, selenium, magnesium, biotin, folic acid, b100 complex, vit C, vit E, MSM and previously milk thistle, saw palmetto, dandelion root, burdock root) to help metabolize fats. I can’t really say they have helped much. The healther diet probably helped (and hurt if I eat fatty foods) more but has not been able to clear me.

    I have spent so much time effort and money trying to clear my skin and have met with little success. Even B5 did not turn out to be the panacea I hoped for when I was taking 10g a day. I do believe that if my liver could produce more bile it would help digest the foods and clear me up not to mention probably stop my weight loss by absorbing more digested proteins. I’ll look into the artichoke extract. I don’t recall seeing any of this at GNC.

  11. Thanx for sharing your experience Wally. Honestly, I’m not sure I would be able to stomach the 3/4 cup of olive oil. I could probably handle the epsom salts. I have found that oil in general tend to break me out rather nasty – cystic kinds which gets imbedded deep in the skin for a very long time, several months even. If the stones are not the problem and don’t help I could end up paying for it for a very long time. And if it’s necessary to keep doing several flushes my face will end up looking like a pizza.

    Epson salts are supposed to dilate the bile ducts. Do you think it would help if I just take the epson salt mixture before and after a meal where I would eat a proteinacious dinner like lean chicken breast fillets which actually contains about 35% fat and fish. Actually it’s not just fat but protein itself supposedly triggers bile release as well. (According to Udo Erasmas book, fats and proteins typically go hand in hand. And a lot of meats even lean cuts have a high fat content.) Of course I won’t get the flood of bile that would result from drinking olive oil but I much prefer a more slow and moderate flush with less serious consequences.

    Have you tried just taking the epson salt mixture?

  12. Hey Christian,
    got a quick question for ya….are you taking B5 for the second time by any chance?? ‘coz you said u took 10g before, and now u’r taking 5 g…so is it the second time? or a continuation where you just reduced your dose? the reason I ask is because I’m experiencing some hair loss, and I have a good feeling that its ‘coz of b5, did u experience any similar reaction?? also, if it is ur second time, is it working as much as the first time? ‘coz mine didn’t, my second time didn’t clear me up 100% even though I was taking more then the first time (first time I got totally clear from 6g and then second time i took 7-7.5 grams for more then a month, still didn’t help)…..thnx!

  13. I have been on a messageboard concerning Rosacea where the liver cleanse has been discussed. The people at that board follow the “The Amazing Liver Cleanse” by Andreas Moritz and according to that you have to make a colon cleanse both before and after you cleanse your liver. It can be dangerous not to do this because when the stones are cleansed from liver and are stuck in the colon it can make more damage than good. :crazyeyes

    A colon cleanse is also called a Colon Hydroxy Therapy.

    DD :roll

  14. I dont know, you might want to try it for a while. The epsom salt is really cheap, and I have thought about just doing the salt part. I couldn’t agree more about the oil. When I took that first gulp of the olive oil by itself, it is not something I would like to relive! The epsom salt was really, really bitter, but it wasn’t too bad if you chugged it. For now I don’t think I will try it, but tell me if you do.

  15. Christian…sorry I called you Christine! 😮 I just caught that!!!!

    Hey, I know how you feel. I did have some success with 10 grams of B5 along with a diet change and AcneMiracle topicals (the best on the market for acne, in case anyone is wondering), BUT…..it made me so tired that I gave up on it. Feeling exhausted all the time just got to be too much. Lower doses seem ok, though, like 4-5 grams a day. Otherwise, I just don’t feel like I can do 10 grams.

    Hang in there. BTW, the artichoke extract I take is from Switzerland and it’s called Cynarol. It’s supposed to be the best on the market. Each capsule contains the guaranteed equivalent of 5500 mg of pure artichoke. European quality herbs tend to be much better, imho. If you can find it, I strongly suggest getting it. It has really worked well for me in conjunction with the Renew Life Liver Detox formula.

    If you can, give it a try and see if it works for you! 😀 😀

  16. Mickey, this is what artichoke extract does:

    Artichoke has been used medicinally since the beginning of the 20th century to improve digestion. Historically, used as a tea, Artichoke is now preferred in the form of standardized extracts for consistent, more predictable results. Traditional uses have included support for sluggish liver, poor digestion and atherosclerosis. Research on standardized Artichoke extract has focused on the constituent, caffeoylquinic acid, and its ability to increase bile production in the liver. An increase in bile production assists the body in blood fat metabolism, which assists the digestion process. Artichokes also contain cynarin which has been reported to lower cholesterol and triglyceride levels. Artichokes are popular in all sorts of food dishes, where the heart of the plant is the part used. The other parts of this herb, such as the head, roots, and leaves, each have known nutritional benefits. Due to its diuretic activities, Artichoke works well in the treatment of kidney diseases.

    ***Keep in mind that I take liver cleansing herbs at this time, also, and will continue to do so during my detox/cleanse over the next few weeks. I just find for me that the right combination of herbs is the key. It seems like if I take artichoke extract by itself, or milk thistle by itself, or blood cleansers by themselves……I don’t stay clear. Since acne is caused mostly by diet, and by default, leaky gut syndrome….then most people have to treat every part of the food metabolism process. Can be very expensive…. 🙁 I feel sorry for you guys who are students and cannot afford all this stuff. I’m going to tough out this cleanse, though, and see what I can do.

    My…it’s getting late. I need to get offa this thing! :shock :eek 😮 :oops :crazyeyes

  17. Hey Christian,
    got a quick question for ya….are you taking B5 for the second time by any chance?? ‘coz you said u took 10g before, and now u’r taking 5 g…so is it the second time? or a continuation where you just reduced your dose? the reason I ask is because I’m experiencing some hair loss, and I have a good feeling that its ‘coz of b5, did u experience any similar reaction?? also, if it is ur second time, is it working as much as the first time? ‘coz mine didn’t, my second time didn’t clear me up 100% even though I was taking more then the first time (first time I got totally clear from 6g and then second time i took 7-7.5 grams for more then a month, still didn’t help)…..thnx!

    That is a very good question Mickey.
    Firstly I took 10g for about a month and then not feeling any benefit whatsoever I have brought it down to 5g and lately have been hovering at 3 to 5g. To tell you the truth I didn’t feel any difference when I was at 10g or at 3g now. Perhaps my sebum excretion level has reduced but I am not sure if I can attribute that to the many other supplements and vitamins I’m taking or an improved diet. I feel my diet plays more of a role than the B5. I can’t really say the B5 has worked for me and may stop it all together opting for just a high potency B100 complex vitamin instead. As for your 2nd time not working as effective as the first time did you stop the B5 altogether and for how long? Did your diet change somewhat during your 2nd time of usage? I am a 33 yr old male so am not suffering from teenage acne. In fact I had great clear skin as a teenager and it only started around 23 for me which coincidentally was when my diet changed radically as I lived on my own. I didn’t start researching about acne until this April. So for the last 10 years my acne became progressively worse and 5 years ago I went on accutane for 6 months which helped but after I went off it, the acne slowly returned. My face is scarred somewhat and patches of discoloration. Worse, I think the accutane may have kickstarted hair loss for me. Male pattern baldness does not run in our family but hair does thin with age for men in our family and I never had a thick head of hair. Perhaps accutane may have accelerate it a few years for me although I am not sure. Before I started B5 this year I was already losing hair (more so than I should be when I look at my brothers) and suffered from seborhic dermatisis / severe dandruff. In fact, I strongly believe that the acne and hair loss is connected (in my case) since both are connected to excessive levels of DHT and sebum excretion. I can not say definitively the B5 has caused more hair loss for me. I know some users have suggested that B5 caused hair loss. Check out this link.

    http://b5foracne.vze.com/

    But I would think that B5 should help reduce hair loss if hair loss is aggravated by excessive sebum excretion which would recirculate surface oils and DHT. B5 has not really helped with my acne nor hair loss.

    Is your hair loss diffuse or on the crown or hair line?
    Check out the forums at hairlosstalk.com or regrowth.com

    Christian

  18. Hi Denise

    Thanx for sharing your success with the artichoke extract. Where did you buy the Cynarol? Also do you notice results only with the Renew Life Liver Detox formula? Did you feel any results from just Cynarol or just Renew Life Liver Detox? And how long were you taking them before you noticed any results?

    I’ve already spent a small fortune on some herbal pills, Zenmed, which many people reported as a scam but the list of ingredients is consistent with my research from herb books which confirm those herbs are supposed to cleanse the liver. Unfortunately those herb pills did not work for me after I tried it for 3 months and out of pocket 200USD. In my reseach of herbal treatments for liver cleansing I don’t recall coming across artichoke extract as one of them. Is this a new discovery? Also I was not able to locate this herb at the local GNC or other health vitamin shops.

    Thanx

  19. Christian; I get Cynarol from my health food store. They carried another brand that was 10 bucks cheaper….but it was discontinued. 😡

    I take BOTH Cynarol and the Renew Life Liver Detox formulas. If I need to add a blood cleanser in, then I do that for a week or two if I need to, but I don’t always need to.

    If you’ve been on antibiotics a lot, you might want to consider the fact that you might have leaky gut syndrome. If that’s the case, the only alternative is to add aloe juice and glutamine into your regimen for a while and see if that helps.

    Like you, I tried Zenmed and a plethora of other blood cleansers, but they just don’t work anymore. I think that my leaky gut syndrome has gotten worse over the years and now I just need to deal with it. That’s why I’m doing this liver detox and colon cleanse right now. I’m slowly working into doing nothing but juicing and raw foods in about a week or two.

    Oh yeah, with B5, you really need to try it for 4-6 months to see if it will do any good for you. Like I said, doses at 10 grams just made me non-functionally tired. Solomio has talked a lot about how high doses of B5 messes with cortisol levels which induces exhaustion. I’m so tired of being tired…..so I just cut it out.

    Anyway, let me know if you have any more questions. Just keep in mind that after I finish my detox, I may get by with actually being able to take the Cynarol and Liver Detox formulas totally out of my diet. I hope that’s the case. This supplement thang just gets old……. :crazyeyes :puppydogeyes :shock

    I’ve been doing it for so many years I’m just sick of it. 🙁

  20. Denise.

    Thanks for your advice. I may have a similar situation as you – a leaky gut syndrome and may have to simply watch my diet for life. Much of the herbal stuff liver detox has not done much for me and I doubt I can stomach an epson salt / olive oil detox.

    I’ll look into the Cynarol and Renew Formula Liver Detox and if it’s not too pricey may try it.

  21. i’m a Hep B carrier and was wondering if that could be connected to my acne since my liver isn’t that ‘healthy’.

    would all those liver cleansing stuff..(cleanse, milk thistle etc) be gd for me as well?

  22. Possibly but not likely. And if so, not directly.
    Case studies of Heb B carriers do not list acne as a common symptom. It is more likely the acne is due to other causes. Certainly a strong liver will help your body to eliminate toxins but it would be better to eliminate the offending food.

  23. re. Cynarol
    http://www.dietfraud.com/HerbalNews/herbal_cynarol.html

    A number of animal studies suggest that artichoke protects the liver from damage by chemical toxins.9 Artichoke’s liver-protective effects have never, however, been proven in controlled clinical trials. Because artichoke leaf is believed to stimulate gall bladder contraction, individuals with gallstones or other forms of gall bladder disease could be put at risk by using this herb. Such individuals should use artichoke leaf only under the supervision of a physician. It is possible that increased gall bladder contraction could lead to obstruction of ducts or even rupture of the gall bladder.

    My wonder solution to acne and IBS (gas / bloatedness / pain) is benonite clay. I have been using it (internally) less than a week so I can’t comment on how well it works long term. I have tried many things for both acne and IBS (including the SCD diet, or a stricter form of it, in which I ONLY and I mean ONLY ate nuts – not peanuts – , eggs and vegetables – not potatoes – for 7 months). Here’s how to prepare bentonite clay (which is available online or most likely in health food shops for a few dollars or pounds and you only use a little at a time).

    Mix 5 oz of water with one teaspoon of bentonite clay. Allow it to settle for a few hours or overnight (as you don’t want to be drinking the sediment). Don’t use metal containers or spoons, as it’s bad if metal comes into contact with the clay.

    I just use a plastic mug and a plastic spoon, make the mixture, leave it to stand (covering it). I take an average sized gulp in the morning, middle of the day and the evening (I believe you can take it up to 5 times a day but it can have a laxative effect). You have to be careful as you raise the container to your mouth as the sediment on the bottom will quickly mix itself about. When you get too close to the sediment tip it out and make another batch.

    Remember to drink plenty of water when doing this.

    Give it a try and let me know how you get on, I believe this is what is helping me but of course you can never be sure as there are always other factors etc.

  24. :mrgreen I did the one pint olive oil cleanse,did everything i was suppose to and i was in the bathroom eliminating right away. The stuff comimg out was all liquid. After getting all the olive oi; and lemons down and still continued to eleminate liquid. In the middle of the night i woke very ill threw up a little liquid and had a horrible headach upon rising in the morning. Still nothing solid has come out of me yet. The epsom salt by far was the worst and most horrible part of the cleanse. Does anyone know if this is normal or experienced the elimination i did? Please help! Dont think it did a thing!

  25. Hi Christian. Did you know that there is a whole separate “Internal Cleansing Board” here? If you go to the bottom right of the screen, you will see the option “Select a forum” and then you will see it in the drop-down menu. You will find a lot of information there.

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